From: Lyle Krueth

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:16 PM

To: Jerry McIlvain

Cc: Mike Morris

Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Guess for a change I cannot find a reason to disagree with Mr. Devine.

From: Jerry McIlvain
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:10 PM
To: Lyle Krueth; bwapwu@att.net
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?
Importance: High

I received the below email stream from our steward in Dothan, AL. Goes back to Patrick Devine.

Jerry McIlvain

National Business Agent

140 Oxmoor Blvd., Suite 170

Birmingham, AL

(205) 940-6293 (Office)

(205) 541-5243 (Cell)

(205) 940-6294 (FAX)

From: Miller, Carol B - Dothan, AL [mailto:Carol.B.Miller2@usps.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:48 AM
To: Jerry McIlvain
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?
Importance: High

From: Phillips, Frank K
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08 AM
To: Miller, Carol B - Dothan, AL
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?
Importance: High

Another FYI

Frank

LSSA
100 Virginia Avenue
Daleville, AL 36322
334-598-4995/3340

From: Turk, Chris - Dothan, AL
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:15 PM
To: ALABAMA - MPOO AREA 4
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?
Importance: High

FYI

H. Chris Turk

Postmaster – Area IV HRL

379 N Oates Street

Dothan AL 36302-4549

(334) 239-4281

(334) 792-1855

(650) 578-4622 Fax

Making Area IV…Number 1!!!

From: Albright, Roberta H - Memphis, TN
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:01 AM
To: Bennett, Diana L - Huntsville, AL; Jenkins, Joseph A - Dallas, TX
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

August 2011, HQ Operations people indicated that PSEs could only be used to backfill to replace career clerks becasue they do not get EAS higher level pay.

From: Albright, Roberta H - Memphis, TN
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:15 PM
To: Cannon, Denise N - Memphis, TN; Kim, Seungtaek - Memphis, TN
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Please see Bob's message below. Based on his comments, I would suggest that the Function 8 PSEs only be used as prescribed in the excerpt that Seungtaek received from the field.

From: Hart, Robert A - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:11 PM
To: Albright, Roberta H - Memphis, TN
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Roberta,

After a LOT of messaging back and forth, this is the only final decision I've seen regarding the use (actually, NON-use) of PSE's for the National Rural Count.

At our "Bolger Summit", the question came up regarding the use of PSE's for the count - Patrick wasn't 100% certain. Then during the July 26 webinar (PS 1994 COO webinar) the question came out again. Patrick stated that we could not HIRE a PSE to do the mail count, but if we HIRED them as a PMR, they could fulfill all the duties of the postmaster, which could include helping with the count. Something changed when this message below came out. According to this, they cannot be used.

Bob

From: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:31 PM
To: Schaefer, Elizabeth A - Washington, DC
Cc: Boldt, James J - Washington, DC; Hart, Robert A - Carol Stream, IL; Knoll, Philip F - Washington, DC; Scinto, John - Washington, DC; Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC
Subject: FW: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Liz,

After going around with this issue all day and having just spoken to Patrick Devine in APWU Contract Administration regarding the PSE’s, we have determined that they do NOT get an EAS higher level, and therefore are unable to participate in counting in the National Rural Mail Count in September.

Post Offices with PSE’s can use them as backfill to replace career clerk employees assigned higher level to count for the 2 weeks or Postmasters in offices where they (PSE’s) have replaced the PMR’s. The PM’s, in turn, can now count while the PSE covers the PM duties.

Bob Olohan

Operations Specialist

HQ Rural Delivery Operations

202-268-3823 (O)

202-573-2798 (B)

*My Telecommute days are Mon & Tues.

You can reach me at 443-607-8240

From: Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC
Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Yes.

Patrick M. Devine, A/Manager
Headquarters Labor Relations
Contract Administration (APWU)
(202) 268-5421
(202) 268-6946 fax
(202) 255-0831 BLACKBERRY

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From: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC; Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC
Cc: Scinto, John - Washington, DC
Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Does this cover all PSEs, including the ones that cover for PMs?

Bob Olohan

Operations Specialist

HQ Rural Delivery Operations

202-268-3823 (O)

202-573-2798 (B)

*My Telecommute days are Mon & Tues.

You can reach me at 443-607-8240

From: Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:11 AM
To: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC; Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC
Cc: Scinto, John - Washington, DC
Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Correct.

From: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:44 AM
To: Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC; Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC
Cc: Scinto, John - Washington, DC
Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

So it is not higher level management position, like a 204B?

Bob Olohan

Operations Specialist

HQ Rural Delivery Operations

202-268-3823 (O)

202-573-2798 (B)

*My Telecommute days are Mon & Tues.

You can reach me at 443-607-8240

From: Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM
To: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC; Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC
Cc: Scinto, John - Washington, DC
Subject: RE: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

Higher level within craft, not EAS.

From: Olohan, Robert M - Washington, DC
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:39 AM
To: Daigneault, Bill - Washington, DC; Devine, Patrick M - Washington, DC
Cc: Scinto, John - Washington, DC
Subject: PSEs and higher level - rural mail counters?

From page 173 of the APWU contract:

C. Article 25, Higher Level Pay

In the event a PSE employee is temporarily assigned to a higher level position, such employee will be paid at the

higher level only for the time actually spent on such job. This language should not be construed to encourage the Postal

Service to temporarily assign such employees to higher level positions. When the opportunity exists for higher level

assignment, the principle of preference for career employees over PSE employees should be utilized. PSE’s will not be

assigned to higher level assignments within function four (e.g., LSSA, Bulk Mail Tech, Special Postal Clerk, Lead

Clerk), except when no career employee is available.

http://www.apwu.org/dept/ind-rel/sc/APWU%20Contract%202010-2015.pdf

Bob Olohan

Operations Specialist

HQ Rural Delivery Operations

202-268-3823 (O)

202-573-2798 (B)

*My Telecommute days are Mon & Tues.

You can reach me at 443-607-8240

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